Comments on: Flickr and copyright of public domain works http://www.twitchgamer.net/2007/02/12/flickr-and-copyright-of-public-domain-works/ skill through rapidly pushing buttons Sun, 25 May 2008 13:10:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Flickr, public domain, and copyright http://www.twitchgamer.net/2007/02/12/flickr-and-copyright-of-public-domain-works/comment-page-1/#comment-543 Flickr, public domain, and copyright Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:20:15 +0000 http://www.twitchgamer.net/2007/02/12/flickr-and-copyright-of-public-domain-works/#comment-543 [...] an earlier post led to quite a discussion about the use of licences within Flickr (thanks Abi and David) . [...] [...] an earlier post led to quite a discussion about the use of licences within Flickr (thanks Abi and David) . [...]

]]> By: David Shapinsky http://www.twitchgamer.net/2007/02/12/flickr-and-copyright-of-public-domain-works/comment-page-1/#comment-38 David Shapinsky Thu, 01 Mar 2007 03:35:41 +0000 http://www.twitchgamer.net/2007/02/12/flickr-and-copyright-of-public-domain-works/#comment-38 I see that my flickr site was referenced in this discussion. I want to say that I am very glad that people are thinking this through for it is an extremely big problem. In my case, as an academic historian, producer, and journalist committed to getting good information out there for others, I've created pingnews to help people who don't have experience with copyright issues. It is not a long-term solution of course but I hope that anyone coming to my sites will know what they're getting, where it comes from, and whether they can use it. Indeed, I try to ONLY post things that others can use freely (using the attribution & share alike license from Creative Commons.) I am definitely interested in this so let me know if there is anything you might suggest. One thing I could use help with is getting the site out there so more people can use it. So far the pictures have been picked up all over the place but this is clearly only a beginning.... Thanks. I see that my flickr site was referenced in this discussion. I want to say that I am very glad that people are thinking this through for it is an extremely big problem. In my case, as an academic historian, producer, and journalist committed to getting good information out there for others, I’ve created pingnews to help people who don’t have experience with copyright issues. It is not a long-term solution of course but I hope that anyone coming to my sites will know what they’re getting, where it comes from, and whether they can use it. Indeed, I try to ONLY post things that others can use freely (using the attribution & share alike license from Creative Commons.)

I am definitely interested in this so let me know if there is anything you might suggest. One thing I could use help with is getting the site out there so more people can use it. So far the pictures have been picked up all over the place but this is clearly only a beginning….

Thanks.

]]> By: Abi Paramaguru http://www.twitchgamer.net/2007/02/12/flickr-and-copyright-of-public-domain-works/comment-page-1/#comment-18 Abi Paramaguru Wed, 14 Feb 2007 03:50:45 +0000 http://www.twitchgamer.net/2007/02/12/flickr-and-copyright-of-public-domain-works/#comment-18 Good idea! I also think that Flickr should not limit itself to just CC licenses. The Wikipedia licensing model for uploaded pictures might be something they should consider (ranges from 'I don't know' - CC- GFDL- dual licensing- public domain). Good idea! I also think that Flickr should not limit itself to just CC licenses. The Wikipedia licensing model for uploaded pictures might be something they should consider (ranges from ‘I don’t know’ – CC- GFDL- dual licensing- public domain).

]]> By: jordan http://www.twitchgamer.net/2007/02/12/flickr-and-copyright-of-public-domain-works/comment-page-1/#comment-17 jordan Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:15:26 +0000 http://www.twitchgamer.net/2007/02/12/flickr-and-copyright-of-public-domain-works/#comment-17 Thanks for the comment Abi! I agree that figuring out what works are in the public domain and which ones aren't is and will continue to be a problem in Flickr. In the interim, it appears that at least some people are simply marking the works as public domain in their notes on the picture, such as here: http://flickr.com/photos/pingnews/286476525/ This of course isn't necessarily reflected when one tries to use the CC search tools that Flickr provides. As to the fact that some people submit works on Flickr that they don't know the copyright status of, perhaps, in addition to the 'Public Domain' declaration, they could have a 'copyright status unknown' option? Thanks for the comment Abi! I agree that figuring out what works are in the public domain and which ones aren’t is and will continue to be a problem in Flickr. In the interim, it appears that at least some people are simply marking the works as public domain in their notes on the picture, such as here:

http://flickr.com/photos/pingnews/286476525/

This of course isn’t necessarily reflected when one tries to use the CC search tools that Flickr provides.

As to the fact that some people submit works on Flickr that they don’t know the copyright status of, perhaps, in addition to the ‘Public Domain’ declaration, they could have a ‘copyright status unknown’ option?

]]> By: Abi Paramaguru http://www.twitchgamer.net/2007/02/12/flickr-and-copyright-of-public-domain-works/comment-page-1/#comment-16 Abi Paramaguru Tue, 13 Feb 2007 01:26:41 +0000 http://www.twitchgamer.net/2007/02/12/flickr-and-copyright-of-public-domain-works/#comment-16 I think one of the problems of licensing with Flickr (or perhaps some of the people who license or the license itself) is the fact that images are often licensed (a) by people who aren’t the copyright holder ('look at this picture my mate took') and/or (b) without putting in the effort to figure out what the licenses actually means (per the example on our blog). Does this undermine the reliability of CC licenses? It is handy for me to find CC licensed pictures to add to our blog posts without having to conduct exhaustive searches to double-check the origin of every single picture we add. But if searches become necessary does this lead to license dilution? I think the inclusion of a PD 'license' (or perhaps 'declaration') in Flickr is definitely required. However, as time goes by, figuring out which works are in the public domain and which aren't will become more difficult. Additionally, many people may not know how long copyright protection applies (depends on the type of work, jurisdiction and the date created etc) and may not realise that it has fallen into the public domain. I think one of the problems of licensing with Flickr (or perhaps some of the people who license or the license itself) is the fact that images are often licensed (a) by people who aren’t the copyright holder (‘look at this picture my mate took’) and/or (b) without putting in the effort to figure out what the licenses actually means (per the example on our blog).

Does this undermine the reliability of CC licenses? It is handy for me to find CC licensed pictures to add to our blog posts without having to conduct exhaustive searches to double-check the origin of every single picture we add. But if searches become necessary does this lead to license dilution?

I think the inclusion of a PD ‘license’ (or perhaps ‘declaration’) in Flickr is definitely required. However, as time goes by, figuring out which works are in the public domain and which aren’t will become more difficult. Additionally, many people may not know how long copyright protection applies (depends on the type of work, jurisdiction and the date created etc) and may not realise that it has fallen into the public domain.

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